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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 18:55:50 UTC 
simsa04
Why the Mastodon-network slowly strangles the #fediverse
https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/
« If ActivityPub (the protocol) and Mastodon (a server that adheres to that protocol) were designed to incentivise decentralisation, having more instances in the network would not be a problem. In fact, it would be the sign of a healthy, decentralised network.
However, ActivityPub and Mastodon are designed the same way Big Tech/Big Web is: to encourage services that host as many “users” as they can.
This design is both complex (which makes it difficult and expensive to self-host) and works beautifully for Big Tech (where things are centralised and scale vertically and where the goal is to get/own/control/exploit as many users as possible).
In Big Tech, the initial cost of obtaining such scale is subsidised by vast amounts of venture capital [...]
However, unlike Big Tech, the stated goal of the fediverse is to decentralise things, not centralise them. Yet how likely is it we can achieve the opposite of Big Tech’s goals while adopting its same fundamental design?
When you adopt the design of a thing, you also inherit the success criteria that led to the evolution of that design. If that success criteria does not align with your own goals, you have a problem on your hands.»
#decentralisation #fediverse #federation !gnusocial !fnetworks -
simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 18:32:08 UTC
simsa04
Aral Balkan, "Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)" https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/
A wonderful blogpost explaining why mass and scale are a danger to the #fediverse. Thanks @aral@matodon.ar.al for unearthing this problem for the #Fediverse (not just the silo-esk Mastodon-network).
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« [O]n the fediverse, I find myself in a somewhat unique situation where:
1. I have my own personal Mastodon instance, just for me.4
2. I’m followed by quite a number of people. Over 22,000, to be exact.
3. I follow a lot of people and I genuinely enjoy having conversations with them. [...]
Unfortunately, the combination of these three factors creates a perfect storm which means that now, every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. [...]
So, what’s the solution?
Well, there’s only one thing you can do when you find yourself in such a pickle: scale up your Mastodon instance. The problem with that? It starts getting expensive. »
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Yes, scale the instance and have it get more expensive is one problem.
But the other is that by doing so you either oust smaller instances or force them to scale up as well to stay visible and "see" enough accounts.
#fediverse #federation !Gnusocial !fnetworks -
simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 18:30:56 UTC
simsa04
Aral Balkan, "Is the fediverse about to get Fryed? (Or, “Why every toot is also a potential denial of service attack”)" https://ar.al/2022/11/09/is-the-fediverse-about-to-get-fryed-or-why-every-toot-is-also-a-potential-denial-of-service-attack/
A wonderful blogpost explaining why mass and scale are a danger to the #fediverse. Thanks @aral@matodon.ar.al for unearthing this problem for the #Fediverse (not just the silo-esk Mastodon-network).
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« [O]n the fediverse, I find myself in a somewhat unique situation where:
1. I have my own personal Mastodon instance, just for me.4
2. I’m followed by quite a number of people. Over 22,000, to be exact.
3. I follow a lot of people and I genuinely enjoy having conversations with them. [...]
Unfortunately, the combination of these three factors creates a perfect storm which means that now, every time I post something that gets lots of engagement, I essentially end up carrying out a denial of service attack on myself. [...]
So, what’s the solution?
Well, there’s only one thing you can do when you find yourself in such a pickle: scale up your Mastodon instance. The problem with that? It starts getting expensive. »
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Yes, scale the instance and have it get more expensive is one problem.
But the other is that by doing so you either oust smaller instances or force them to scale up as well to stay visible and "see" enough accounts.
#fediverse #federation !Gnusocial !fnetworks -
simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 23:53:45 UTC
simsa04
@lnxw48a1 @fu
If I may pitch in on on th etopic of "how the fediverse works"...
Yes, you can explain it with the image of email and email providers. But you rely on "freedom" (whose?) to describe a structure that doesn't explain why newbies can and cannot subscribe to other people or otherwise interact with accounts and posts.
A different way is stop putting "freedom" into the centre – which in itself is a rather problematic hierarchical approach as it invokes the imagery of landlords dealing with their rowdy tenants – and explain to people the basics of #federation, from which most of the peculiarities and problems of fediverse interactions arise.
2015 I wrote a piece for Twitter migrants to GNUsocial primarily from the angle of a layperson, explaining the various oddities by pointing to and explaining from federation as the root cause. Perhaps this snippet is of some help:
!gnusocial !fnetworks #federation #fediverse https://gnusocial.net/attachment/cb9618538a9e5d8cfe3e78d2ca6b29734cefe631fa4e8b4bcc72ee7140b9e4a9/view -
simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Nov-2022 15:32:12 UTC
simsa04
Worth your thought...
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/109273455318668977
https://gnusocial.net/conversation/7417481#notice-12895330
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simsa04 (simsa04@gnusocial.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Oct-2022 01:04:42 UTC
simsa04
Thank you for clarifying that.
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Sorokin Alexei (xrevan86@loadaverage.org)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2020 01:20:15 UTC 
Sorokin Alexei
@sl @samir https://notabug.org/diogo/gnu-social/issues/160#issuecomment-19742
Well, there's this answer.
There are !gnusocial instances out there that have ActivityPub enabled, !loadaverage isn't one of them yet.
When confidence in the implementation not making a mess in the database is high enough, you'll know :-). -
aab (aab@khp.ignorelist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-May-2020 12:03:35 UTC 
aab
Ante la compra de Giphy por parte de Facebook, @stux ha puesto en marcha https://gifwy.com/ Que sigan los gifs de gatetes (y otros) rulando por el !fediverso @admins_del_fediverso@gup.pe !gnusocial
https://gifwy.com/animals/such-a-nice-cat/ -
aab (aab@khp.ignorelist.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Mar-2020 11:02:23 UTC
aab
- Oie, que dicen que van a sacar pronto una nueva versión de !gnusocial
- Lo creeré cuando lo vea. ¡Y deja de chuparme! https://khp.ignorelist.com/attachment/132068
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